16-09 September Minutes

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The Lambton Presbytery held its regularly scheduled meeting on September 15, 2016 at Lambton Camp Centre. The Centre’s volunteers provided a roast beef dinner. Centre chair Betty Knight welcomed the presbytery to the camp and led worship along with children from the camp. Betty Knight outlined the activities of the camp in the last year and showed a video. (See Appendix pages, 2016: 61-63) Past Chair Carolyn Wilson Wynne constituted the meeting at 6:38 p.m., saying “In the name of Jesus, the one true Head of the Church, and with the authority vested in me as Lambton Presbytery past chair, I declare the meeting constituted for the transaction of such business as may properly come before it.” She also acknowledged the Indigenous Territory on which presbytery met.

CONSENT DOCKET (See Appendix pages, 2016:60)
Moved by Doug Wright, second by Diane Anderson-Robinson that the Consent Docket be accepted with the suggested amendment, correcting the Minutes of June 16, 2016 referring to Jim Breen’s work at St. Andrews’ Pastoral Charge, Cairo and Alvinston Pastoral Charge on page 2016: 43.) Carried.

Moved by Nick Monsour, seconded by Jim Breen that the agenda be approved as amended to includes on the Archives, the annual reports and on Mental Health First Aide. 


Ministry Personnel: Jim Breen, Deborah Ambridge Fisher, Deanna Gibson, Dan Leaver, Brenda MacMain, Wendy Milliken, Pat Morrison, Brad Morrison, Jill Rogers, Marilyn Townsend-Smith, Janet Uren, Carey Wagner, Carolyn Wilson Wynne, Doug Wright, Sandra Fogarty

Lay Representatives: Susan Barnetson, Doug Beatty, Ida Burley, Ann Carr, Debbie Greenwood, Louise Hall, Marion Henderson, Wilma Johnson, Jim Johnson, Jim Louks, Norm MacPherson, Madeline McCaw, Nick Monsour, Bonnie Neely, Joy Smith, Judy Raymond, Janice Rising, Judy Stubbs, Pat Whitton, Phyllis Williamson, Nancy Andrews
Regrets: Pete Brennan, Elizabeth Brown, Gillian Ewing, Elizabeth McDonald, Christine Jerrett, Melanie Kirk, Betty Jean Page, Susan Woodhouse, Connie Ellis, Doug Greenough, Bob Gibson, Matthew Stevens

CORRESPONDNCE as distributed. (See Appendix pages, 2016: 57-59)



Pat Whitton reported on the plans for the Remit Party on Oct. 1, 2016 and November 19, 2016. She said this joint education program is to help prepare presbyters and church boards to vote for

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the Remits on the reorganization of the church. To date, only a handful of presbyters had registered to attend.
Moved by Pat Whitton, seconded by Brenda MacMain that Lambton Presbytery support the Remit Part of Middlesex Presbytery in the amount of $300. Carried. Abstentions: 2

Moved by Sandra Fogarty, seconded by Carey Wagner that persons doing the work of Presbytery in a congregation whether order of ministry or lay, will be reimbursed for travel at the current conference rate by the Pastoral Charge receiving the service. 

Moved by Brad Morrison, seconded by Ann Carr that Lambton Presbytery request of London Conference $37,149 from Mission Support to begin January 1, 2017 to sustain the ministry of St. Clair United Church for the year 2017. 
Carried. Abstentions; 2, Brenda MacMain.

Presbytery heard that the finances of Blackwell United have been distributed and that the church which was sold has been demolished. The Mandaumin property is now the home of Redeemer Christian Church of God and held its first service on Labor Day.

Nick Monsour said plans are underway to transfer records from Mandaumin to the Archives in Toronto. He is also meeting with Faith Trinity to discuss their archives.

Nick Monsour encouraged any churches that have not submitted their annual reports for 2015 to send them in.


Local Arrangements Committee: Louise Hall said that the London Conference Annual meeting, May26-28, 2017 will be hosted by Lambton Presbytery, but it will be held in London. She said the plans for the meeting were already too advanced to change it the Aamjiwnaang setting. She said all presbyters would be needed to help in the hosting of the annual meeting. The guest speaker is Wab Kinew.

Mental Health First Aide: Deborah Ambridge Fisher reported on a program that can give ministers and lay people skills to help in caring for those in distress. She agreed to send out information on the two-day course.

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Refugee Report: Pat Whitton agreed to send out an update on the work of the Refugee Committee.
Closing Prayer: Carolyn Wilson Wynne closed the meeting with prayer.

Moved by Carey Wagner, seconded by Deanna Gibson that the meeting of Lambton Presbytery be adjourned. Carried. 
The meeting was adjourned at 7:10 p.m.


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Conference; GC= General Council; GD= General Distribution Presbytery Meeting on June 16, 2016: Agenda...
1986 Apology & Response

GD(Sent August 17, 2016)

Forwarded to Pat Whitton, Connie Ellis. Cheque delivered. Replied


Replied Filed LC

Filed Phone calls

Forwarded Chair, past chair Forwarded GC GD

Kent Presbytery Minutes
LC: Pastoral Support Minister Position Deadline
LC: Latest from LoCo Newsletter for June 8, 2016 Five Oaks: Final Notice of Membership Meeting Fwd: fwd Reporting of Lambton Presbytery Refugee Committee donations
Meeting of Dunlop United Congregation Background for new business items
New Business Motions
Cheque and gift card for Presbytery Refugee Committee

Choral Workshop with Besig and Price
Five Oaks: Membership and Annual meeting information
A couple of questions
June meeting information
Mission and Ministry Profile, Dawn Valley/Oil Springs
LC: Liturgy for installing chair
Kent Presbytery Minutes
GC: Pastoral charges who have not completed statistics for 2015
Lambton Presbyterial United Church Women Report LC: Remit Education

GC: Information re:Mandaumin Church closing Becoming an Affirming Ministry
Summer Availability List
LC: Affirming Ministry and Letter of Support 
GC: God’s Mission, Our Gifts

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News for You: 48 new grants and awards
Re: Affirming Motion at June meeting
Error reported in distribution of funds from Blackwell United
Revised Summer Availability List
Declaration of Vacancy at Dawn Valley/Oil Springs Draft of June minutes
New Ministry for St. Luke’s United
Information requested
Kent Presbytery Emergency Executive meeting Middlesex Presbytery minutes
Hub Project
Application for Futures Revitalization grant for St. 
Luke’s United
Re: Conference Call on Hub Project
Fwd: Strathroy Music Director Opening
Middlesex Resource Centre newsletter
LC: Remit Resources
Five Oaks: Newsletter
New Growth Fund Application: St. Luke’s
Fwd: Go Project Watford
New Growth Application Motions
Three Motions for the Executive Conference Call Middlesex Presbytery Executive Minutes, July 7, 2016 Stats submitted
LC: Fwd: Ministry Student Debt Research Survey
LC: Stewardship and Gifts Survey Request
Correction for Strathroy Music Director Ad Mandaumin United Church Surplus Items
Follow-up to Summer Commission of July 11, 2016 Lambton Presbytery Refugee Committee Update Information re: summer commission
Dunlop United Oversight Report
LC: Latest from LoCo newsletter
LC: September Bridge deadline of July 22, 2016
LC: Conference Call Information
Confirmation of Summer Commission, July 21, 2016 Church Musician Available
New Minister Information for website
Presbytery partnering ideas
Extreme Weather Alert

Forwarded, Filed Forwarded to Connie Ellis
Forwarded LC, Executive Forward

Executive GD

Filed Filed Filed Executive Filed Filed Ministers GD

GD, Forwarded Executive
Replied Replied
Forwarded Forwarded Forwarded
Pat Morrison Executive

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Warrant to Covenant received for Deanna Gibson Five Oaks: August newsletter
GC: God’s Mission, Our Gifts: Tell Us Why You Give

New email address
LC: Latest from LoCo newsletter
Church Secretary Position and Job Description
GC: Stewardship and Gifts Survey , Second Request 
LC: Charities and Giving: What’s New
September Presbytery Meeting
LC: Updates for Chairs and Secretaries
Follow-up to Presbytery Partnering Ideas
1986 Apology and Response
Middlesex Presbytery Resource Centre newsletter LC: Motions at the time of Realignment, Disbanding, Amalgamation
LC: Conference Calling Usage
Summer Commission re: Grace United
GC: World Week for Peace in Palestine and Israel Telephone message thanking Blackwell United for donation to Canadian FoodGrains
Summer Commission on August 23, 2016
LC: Save the Date, Mission Support Grant applications
Updated Lambton Presbytery Handbook
GC: Contact sought re: Blackwell United Church Draft minutes of Summer Commission, August 23, 2016
LC: Conference Call system changing
Promoting the Remit Party on October 1, 2016 Lambton Centre: Job Posting for Property Manager

Filed GD GD

Filed GD GD GD GD Replied Filed Replied GD GD Filed

Replied, Forwarded GD

Executive Forwarded

Replied Replied Executive

Chair, replied Replied

August 25, 2016
August 30, 2016
August 30, 2016
Events and Activities for General Distribution

 Surprise Party for Jim and Laura Breen on June 18, 2016.

  •   Health and Wellness Fair on June 24, 25, 2016 at Siloam United Church, London.

  •   Fish and Chips at Camlachie United on August 14, 2016.

  •   Lambton Pork and Beef Barbecue on August 13, 2016 at Lambton Centre.

  •   Quarter Auction on September23 at Central United Church.

  •   Mission Support Grant meeting on November 15, 2016 at London Conference office at

695 Riverside Dr., London.

 Barbecue Turkey Dinner on October 2, 2016 at Camlachie United.

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 Comedy Hypnosis with Jeff West at Brigden Fairgrounds on November 4, 2016. Joint fundraising event for Courtright-Sixth Line United Churches. Includes chicken and roast

beef supper.


A CONSENT DOCKET contains motions that are not likely to require discussion. If anyone wishes to discuss an item it will be removed from the Consent Docket and placed on the Discussion Docket. If anyone has a question for clarification about an item on the Consent Docket it will be answered if possible with a brief explanation. The item may be put on the Discussion Docket at the Chairperson’s discretion.

The following are basic facilitating motions for the meeting:

  1. (A)  THAT the ROLL CALL be those who signify their attendance by legibly signing the attendance sheets (The Secretary will list any names that have been received for Regrets on the Attendance Sheet).

  2. (B)  THAT all VISITORS be made CORRESPONDING MEMBERS (which means that visitors are invited to speak but DO NOT HAVE A VOTE.)

  3. (C)  THAT all LICENCED LAY WORSHIP LEADERS be made CORRESPONDING MEMBERS and receive all Presbytery Correspondence.

  4. (D)  THATallMINUTESofLambtonPresbyterypages2016:41-54beacceptedasprinted.

  5. (E)  THAT the CORRESPONDENCE be distributed to and dealt with by the Committee or

    Division as per the CORRESPONDENCE RECEIVED listed in the Minutes of Lambton


  6. (F)  THAT the Court waives use of a BALLOT for Pastoral Relations motions UNLESS

    REQUESTED by any one voting member.

  7. (G)  THATallMOTIONSbewrittenclearlyortypedfortheSecretary.

  8. (H)  THAT all REPORTS be written clearly or typed for inclusion in the Minutes .

  9. (I)  THAT the EXECUTIVE of Lambton Presbytery is granted POWERS of PRESBYTERY for

    necessary business, upon this meeting’s adjournment until the next meeting of Lambton Presbytery.

That the minutes of Presbytery meeting will be received to accept the Consent Docket in its entirety unless someone has requested that an item be moved to the DISCUSSION Docket to allow discussion. The remainder will be accepted as one item.

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Presentation by Betty Knight, Chair of Lambton Centre Board, on September

15, 2016 for the meeting of Lambton Presbytery.

Good evening,
My name is Betty Knight and I have recently been elected to the position of Chair of the board at Lambton Centre. I would like to introduce the rest of the members of The Lambton Centre Board.
Dylan Cox 
– Fundraising Director
Penny Cox 
– Personnel Director
Brenda Roby 
– Director at Large
Jim Krall 
– Financial Director
I would also like to introduce our staff members Debby Marriot who is our office administrator and Rick England our property manager.
Through the first part of the year, Lambton centre has been full of activity. We would like to share with you a few of the highlights from the spring and summer seasons.
In early May we introduced a new hopefully annual event called Circle the Centre. During this weekend a group of eager volunteers helped prepare the camp for the upcoming season. About 50 people participated during the weekend including a group of boy scouts. All who attended had a great time of socializing, and helping get Lambton Centre ready for the upcoming season. In late May and June, we offer an Outdoor Education Program to the schools within Lambton County. This year more than 1000 children visited Lambton Centre to participate in many activities including Geocaching, Archery and Low Ropes. This program provides great exposure for the wonderful beauty that Lambton Centre offers and provides an excellent outdoor education program to the school system. We would like to thank our awesome summer staff who helped make this program a success.

In June we broke ground on our handicap accessible playground and swing set. Over the summer the campers have enjoyed the playground immensely. It was especially appreciated by our Reach for the Rainbow participants. This program integrates campers with disabilities into our summer camp programs. Fundraising for this project is still ongoing with approximately $12500 more to be raised.
Summer camp keeps us busy for the months of July and August. This year most of our summer camps were filled to capacity with waiting lists. This year we offered two different week long day camps called Splash Camp. Splash Camp is a day camp that provides campers exposure to camp without having to stay overnight. Busing was provided from Sarnia and Petrolia. This year we had two weeks of co-ed special interest week camps. One week was video game camp and the second was Sports and Art Week. During all Girls Week we explored the theme under the sea. This camp was full to capacity and we even had to borrow a few extra councillors to be able to meet the demand. For our younger campers we offer a 3 day Little Peoples Camp. The final week of the summer was Teen week. During this week the campers participated in a two night out trip to Attawandan Scout Camp to canoe and to participate in other activities.

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Helping with camp this year we had Alicia the camp director, who returned for her second season. We had Lexie, David and Veronica who were our 3 senior staff members who helped run the camps and the outdoor education program. We had 8 counsellors and we also had a very eager group of Leaders in Training. The LITs attended three weeks of camp and learned how to be good counsellors. Hopefully many will return to Lambton Centre as councillors in future years.
Lambton Centre is not just a summer camp facility. We also have a seasonal campground and a retreat centre.
Our seasonal campground provides a quiet getaway, close to home. The seasonal campers take great pride in this campground and help in many ways to keep it a beautiful place to visit and stay. We have many seasonal campers who have been with us for many years. We look forward to making many new friends in the future. The camp ground still has about 20 seasonal sites available for the upcoming season. Tours are always available.
Lambton Centre offers many options for group retreats throughout the year. We have rental facilities available for all sizes of groups. For smaller groups we have the Farm House or The 
Children’s Centre. For large groups the cabins and main camp facilities are available. We are happy to report that most weekends in September and October are rented. Debby in the office can always help with any questions regarding rental of the facilities.
As a not for profile corporation Lambton Centre relies on the assistance of numerous volunteers to help keep up with the many demands of the centre. Volunteers help us with fundraising and general up keep at the camp. Our most dedicated volunteers are The Tuesday Volunteers. This group meets every Tuesday at Lambton Centre and helps Rick with general maintenance at the centre. This could be anything from fixing broken screens, to roofing, tree removal and closing the camp. These gentlemen work hard and are always looking for new members. Women are also welcome. We are also always looking for new volunteers as well to help at events and activities. Many hands make light work and we could sure use a few more hands
Volunteers are awesome but unfortunately we need money to help purchase and supply everything the centre needs. As a camp established in the 1960s, Lambton Centre is starting to show its age and we are currently working on upgrading some of the facilities. We are looking to encourage more donations from the community and the individuals within the United Church Family. In order to recognize our donors, we have established The Lambton Centre Giving Tree. Different coloured leaves will acknowledge different levels of financial support. More information on the Giving Tree program is available at the information table. Please share this information with the members of your church. We would also be willing to come share this information with your congregations.
Lambton centre also has a great team of employees that help keep the centre running. We are currently in search of a couple of new people to join our team at Lambton Centre. We are currently accepting applications for a property manager and a custodian. Job descriptions are available the information table tonight. Please share the job postings with the members at your church and your community.
All of these activities at Lambton Centre has kept the board very busy. The current board at Lambton Centre is a very dedicated group of people but we are few in numbers. We are looking for volunteers to sit on The Lambton Centre Board. If anyone is interested, please do not hesitate


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to speak with one of the current board members tonight or let Debby know at the office. One of the goals of the board is to strengthen the communications between the churches in Lambton county. We are looking for a representative from each church to be a contact person with Lambton Centre. If you have an individual who is interested, please let Debby at the office know.

Looking ahead we would like to invite everyone to our Annual Fall Turkey Dinner which is going to be held in November at Central United Church in Sarnia. Posters and tickets will be available in the very near future.

We welcome you to join us in growing Lambton Centre once again into a lively, Christ-driven, outreach ministry for youth and families through your time, talent and financial support. Thank you for your ongoing prayers.

In closing we would like to share a short slide show of some of the highlights from Lambton Centre 

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